HOME SALE MEMBERS BOATS ASSOCIATION CONTACT
Hunter Liberty and Minstrel Owners Association
Please be aware that Cookies are used in this web-site

"What a pretty boat, with that nice stern and unusual rig: what is it?"

We agree that the questionaire is right: everything about the boat is both pretty and practical. David Thomas developed the design for Hunter Boats in 1979, capitalising on his memories of the stern of a Royal Naval Montague Whaler and the best aspects of Gary Hoyt's American Freedom concept (hence the "Liberty" name) but anglicised so that conventional mast tracks could be used - and therefore a single sail instead of a wrap round - and the sail also reefed more efficiently as the complications of the wishbone and snotter are avoided.

Liberty

Liberty

Minstrel

Minstrel

But we do enjoy not having genoa sheet winches, the easy balancing of the two masted rig, the use of the tightly sheeted mizzen to keep the boat heading into wind while the main is set or the anchor weighed. Enthusiasts set upwind blade staysails or downwind balloon types between the masts, or even forward of the main mast, so it is possible to make life as complicated as you wish

Life below decks is highly civilised because the main mast is so far forward that it does not interfere with the accommodation layout, while the offset main hatch allows a full sized heads compartment (with surprisingly good headroom) immediately to port. So the saloon allows a double or two singles, plus a very long quarter berth running back under the cockpit and a good galley.

The Minstrel and Liberty 23 hulls, keels and rudders are identical. Below decks they are also the same, except that the Minstrel has an essential mast support. This slight inconvenience is countered in some boats by using it as a table support. Likewise, despite the support, owners have found ways to organise an infill cushion, so allowing a double berth

Minstrels are normally faster up wind than Libertys, as they should be since they have single masted rigs and a little more sail area. For the same reasons they are not quite as stiff. Off the wind there is little difference, though Libertys sometimes seem to gain in stronger winds. To our surprise, a goose winged and well laden Liberty has run away from a spartan Bermudan rigged Minstrel with its spinnaker set, so nothing is certain

Altogether 84 Libertys were built: 65 22s and 19 23s (the same hull with more ballast, a slightly bigger rig and bigger, less attractive windows) and then Hunter Boats used the same hull to build 30 of the gaff rigged Minstrel class, which is equally popular; Liberty and Minstrel sailors delight in late evening discussions over the relative merits and speed of their boats.

The Association

Welcome to Hunter Liberty & Ministrel Owners Association

The Association boasts 87 members, so we still have to find about 30 of the boats, to document the whole class. If you happen to know of one, anywhere, we would like to know how we can contact the owner, so that we can try to discover its history, regardless of whether the owner wishes to join us or not.

HLMOA's aim is to provide a forum of discussion and group activity centered around individuals who have a common interest in boats of the type:

Some of HLMOA's activities and information:

Contact Us

If you would like to join the Association please send an email to:
contact@hlmoa.org.uk
Please address it to Sandra Cats - Secretary & Membership

Do note that there is a small annual subscription charge for UK residents

Enter Member's Section

While the administrators and moderators of this website will attempt to remove or edit any generally objectionable material as quickly as possible, it is impossible to review every entry.
Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to this website express the views and opinions of the author and not the administrators, moderators or webmaster (except for posts by these people) and hence the HLMOA will not be held liable.
You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators of this website have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit.
Your Data: As a user you agree to any information you have entered above being stored in a database.
Please note that your information will not be made available to non-members apart from specific areas such as wanted or for sale items. Whilst this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent the webmaster, administrator and moderators cannot be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead to the data being compromised. You can change your profile at any time.
Should you wish to have your data removed from the site please inform the association.
You must be authorised (by the issue of a login and password from the secretary) to use this site


For Sale

Please read this statement

You should take note that this Association takes no responsibility for our Members' advertisements. Neither does it confer any guarantees regarding the items for sale. We are here only to provide a contact point and cannot provide advice on any item. Please contact the advertiser directly if you need further details.

Click on the pictures to expand to full screen

For Sale

HUNTER LIBERTY 22 : "MATILDA"

   £4,000.00 ono. Contact  Bob Wallace  wallacebob@mac.com

Reluctant sale of this good example of the Liberty. Good sails, with stack pack/lazy jacks for easy of use. Additional bow sprit and small jib to help with light air tacks. Lines led aft to ease use. Easy single handed sailer, with large comfortable cockpit and cosy cabin. 2/3 berth. Makes very comfortable double bed. I have removed seat cushions to home; in fair condition for age. Recently painted hull - lovely. Interior needs final tidy: headlining droop. Separate toilet, with chemical loo, and wet locker area. Gas cooking with twin burner and grill. Battery electrics with solar charging. VHF radio. Nav lights.  Autohelm fitted. NASA log/depth. The outboard is a reliable Suzuki 5HP, regularly serviced, with charging facility. Dodgers. Selection of fenders, ropes, etc. Trailer is is reasonable condition, brakes serviced last year. Tyre replaced. All she needed in March to go sailing was a quick anti-foul!

Due to Covid19 we didn't get craned in this year at the club, so she is a bit jammed in the yard - this may be sortable. Currently ashore at Blackness Boat Club, Firth of Forth. Viewing is strictly by appointment, the club is not open to the public at present. It may be possible to adopt my old swinging mooring in the bay, and membership of the club is needed for this. Assistance can be given to set up Matilda, and advice on sailing her. Ask any question by email wallacebob@mac.com or 07909542022.

For Sale

Four wheeled trailer for Liberty or Minstrel

   ££1350 ono ono. Contact  Bill Wardroper 07772 111549  Lxbill@aol.com

Four wheeled bespoke trailer for Liberty 22/23 or Minstrel fully braked. Made by RM Trailers ltd new tires and new wheel bearing. Wheel washing system installed but the trailer has not been immersed in salt water as the boat is launched from a yard crane.Spare wheel with new tire. Very strongly built and galvanised, designed to carry 1500 kg All straps and trailing kit included.Situated near Emsworth. Call Bill. mobile : 07772 111549 email: lxbill@aol.com.

For Sale

Gulliver Liberty 23 For Sale

   ££6900 ono ono. Contact  Brian Firth 01943 830030  bbf931@yahoo.co.uk

This well maintained Hunter Liberty 23 is fully equipped for single handed sailing and is now for sale, together with the original 2 wheeled trailer with spare wheel and launching trolley. Hull no. 1001988 original gelcoat (1988). Afloat on a pontoon in Kirkcudbright, South West Scotland.

1. Full set of sails:- main, mizzen and spinnaker. All lines lead back to cockpit.

2. Masthead tri-colour navigation lights.

3. Interior cushions including double berth infill. Cockpit cushions. All in excellent condition.

4. Fully equipped galley, including original double burner meths stove.

5. Separate heads with Porta Potti. Fan Heater.

6. Barometer. Internal lighting. Shore power with cable. Fan Heater.

7. Nasa DSC radio. Raytheon GPS. Garmin GPS handheld. Handheld radio. Echo sounder Navco tiller pilot.

8. Solar panel. Heavy duty battery (new last year)

9. Tohatsu 5, 2 stroke serviced this year, 2 fuel cans.

10. Anchor with Chain. 2nd anchor with warp. Extensive set of warps, fenders and boat hook.

11. Cockpit cover spray hood. Winter tarpaulin.

12. Inflatable dinghy in quarter berth.

13. Folder in cabin with instruction manuals, equipment notes an photo’s to assist with rigging, launch and recovery

14. Two coats of antifoul this year. Price £6,900.00 (ONO)

Contact David Hannay: 07775 537797 or Brian Firth 07876 684697

For Sale

Toplac Paint, Squall blue.

   ££18.00 each, x3 av ono. Contact  Don Brown 01677 450895  djmbrown94@gmail.com

Bought x3 tins of Squall blue  International paint-- TOPLAC       (UNOPENED)   (Squall Blue, YKA923/750)   in error 3 weeks ago from Gael force.  (cost £22.95 per 750 ml.)     Have now found that 2.5  tins of 750 ml. will easily cover three coats  over the hull ,  I bought x6 tins??  Will organise pick up,  or pack for your courier.

            After filling and sealing and rubbing down x4 times it has done a cracking job-   painted outside in a field at 6 AM x3times ,   with 3/4 days interval.

 please  phone if you want any more details etc

 

Don Brown

BEDALE , North Yorkshire

Wanted

hunter liberty 23

   £ ono. Contact  Georg Warnecke  gwarnecke@gmx.de

…preferably in germany – and / or junk–rigged…