"What a pretty boat, with that nice stern and unusual rig: what is it?"
We agree that the questionaire is right: everything about the boat is both pretty and practical. David Thomas developed the design for Hunter Boats in 1979, capitalising on his memories of the stern of a Royal Naval Montague Whaler and the best aspects of Gary Hoyt's American Freedom concept (hence the "Liberty" name) but anglicised so that conventional mast tracks could be used - and therefore a single sail instead of a wrap round - and the sail also reefed more efficiently as the complications of the wishbone and snotter are avoided.
But we do enjoy not having genoa sheet winches, the easy balancing of the two masted rig, the use of the tightly sheeted mizzen to keep the boat heading into wind while the main is set or the anchor weighed. Enthusiasts set upwind blade staysails or downwind balloon types between the masts, or even forward of the main mast, so it is possible to make life as complicated as you wish
Life below decks is highly civilised because the main mast is so far forward that it does not interfere with the accommodation layout, while the offset main hatch allows a full sized heads compartment (with surprisingly good headroom) immediately to port. So the saloon allows a double or two singles, plus a very long quarter berth running back under the cockpit and a good galley.
The Minstrel and Liberty 23 hulls, keels and rudders are identical. Below decks they are also the same, except that the Minstrel has an essential mast support. This slight inconvenience is countered in some boats by using it as a table support. Likewise, despite the support, owners have found ways to organise an infill cushion, so allowing a double berth
Minstrels are normally faster up wind than Libertys, as they should be since they have single masted rigs and a little more sail area. For the same reasons they are not quite as stiff. Off the wind there is little difference, though Libertys sometimes seem to gain in stronger winds. To our surprise, a goose winged and well laden Liberty has run away from a spartan Bermudan rigged Minstrel with its spinnaker set, so nothing is certain
Altogether 84 Libertys were built: 65 22s and 19 23s (the same hull with more ballast, a slightly bigger rig and bigger, less attractive windows) and then Hunter Boats used the same hull to build 30 of the gaff rigged Minstrel class, which is equally popular; Liberty and Minstrel sailors delight in late evening discussions over the relative merits and speed of their boats.
The Association boasts 87 members, so we still have to find about 30 of the boats, to document the whole class. If you happen to know of one, anywhere, we would like to know how we can contact the owner, so that we can try to discover its history, regardless of whether the owner wishes to join us or not.
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£0.00 ono. Contact Bob & Rita Ager 01206 386359 firstname.lastname@example.org
ORLANDO is a Liberty 22, a cat rigged Bermudan ketch designed by David Thomas and built by Hunter Boats of Rochford, Essex as hull No 36 in 1982. She is available with two completely separate rigs - the standard cat ketch with reinforced masts, and a fully sorted junk rig with separate masts, either or both of which can be available, subject to negotiation. The main mast is secured with an external "latch" system to facilitate the lowering of the mast, eliminating the need to go below .
As a trailer sailer there is a custom built road trailer, the wheels, brakes, bearings and mudguards of which have never been immersed in salt or fresh water. For the coming season all antifouling has been stripped away and Gelshield epoxy coating applied, and the centreplate strop has been renewed.
The bow is protected from damage by the anchor by a stainless steel plate, and other modifications include a boarding ladder, also in stainless steel which can be mounted in three positions around the cockpit, another safety feature is a step on the rudder to assist man overboard recovery. Additional louvred vents in the stern allow access to the pushpit and boarding ladder fixings as well as combating condensation.
Orlando is available with a Mariner 6hp 4 stroke long shaft outboard with sail drive propeller.
Further details and a full inventory are available from Bob Ager Tel: 01206 386359 or e-mail: email@example.com
£0.00 ono. Contact Geoff Hales & Sandra Cats 01929 792957 firstname.lastname@example.org
|Hunter Liberty wanted, I don't mind if it's scruffy and in need of TLC but must be basically sound, sleeved mast, if possible a good serviceable engine, and a good trailer.|
I am an ex Minstrel owner so I have a reasonable knowledge of these boats.
Preferably somewhere South of Sheffield as I am near Oxford and to travel is a nightmare.
Peter Walsh mobile 07970852505 mail: email@example.com
|Minstrel Lady Rose Built 1993|
Has a Sea toilet and a 2 burner spirit sove.
Can be seen at Kemps Boatyard, Southampton
Being sold due to ill health
For full details ring Ray Norris Tel: 02083641416
£150.00 ono. Contact Richard Pereira 01642 762284 firstname.lastname@example.org
|Launch trolley for Hunter Liberty. Located Middlesbrough.|