"What a pretty boat, with that nice stern and unusual rig: what is it?"
We agree that the questionaire is right: everything about the boat is both pretty and practical. David Thomas developed the design for Hunter Boats in 1979, capitalising on his memories of the stern of a Royal Naval Montague Whaler and the best aspects of Gary Hoyt's American Freedom concept (hence the "Liberty" name) but anglicised so that conventional mast tracks could be used - and therefore a single sail instead of a wrap round - and the sail also reefed more efficiently as the complications of the wishbone and snotter are avoided.
But we do enjoy not having genoa sheet winches, the easy balancing of the two masted rig, the use of the tightly sheeted mizzen to keep the boat heading into wind while the main is set or the anchor weighed. Enthusiasts set upwind blade staysails or downwind balloon types between the masts, or even forward of the main mast, so it is possible to make life as complicated as you wish
Life below decks is highly civilised because the main mast is so far forward that it does not interfere with the accommodation layout, while the offset main hatch allows a full sized heads compartment (with surprisingly good headroom) immediately to port. So the saloon allows a double or two singles, plus a very long quarter berth running back under the cockpit and a good galley.
The Minstrel and Liberty 23 hulls, keels and rudders are identical. Below decks they are also the same, except that the Minstrel has an essential mast support. This slight inconvenience is countered in some boats by using it as a table support. Likewise, despite the support, owners have found ways to organise an infill cushion, so allowing a double berth
Minstrels are normally faster up wind than Libertys, as they should be since they have single masted rigs and a little more sail area. For the same reasons they are not quite as stiff. Off the wind there is little difference, though Libertys sometimes seem to gain in stronger winds. To our surprise, a goose winged and well laden Liberty has run away from a spartan Bermudan rigged Minstrel with its spinnaker set, so nothing is certain
Altogether 84 Libertys were built: 65 22s and 19 23s (the same hull with more ballast, a slightly bigger rig and bigger, less attractive windows) and then Hunter Boats used the same hull to build 30 of the gaff rigged Minstrel class, which is equally popular; Liberty and Minstrel sailors delight in late evening discussions over the relative merits and speed of their boats.
The Association boasts 87 members, so we still have to find about 30 of the boats, to document the whole class. If you happen to know of one, anywhere, we would like to know how we can contact the owner, so that we can try to discover its history, regardless of whether the owner wishes to join us or not.
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£4950 ono. Contact Bill Wardroper 01243 786524 Lxbill@aol.com
Liberty 22 plus trailer and launching trolley ( original trailer and launching trolley. Never used bypresent owner)
6hp 4 stroke Tohatso long shaft saildrive engine not yet run in
original sails in good condition See note at bottom
cruising shute plus a set of junk sails
double sleeved re-Inforced masts
all lines back to cockpit
two sets of interior cushions
one set of cockpit cushions
sail covers by cover care
newly painted interior with new cushion back rests and curtains to be fitted
grp walker bay 8 ft tender ( no tubes)
copper coat anti fouling applied 2018
two anchors. plus chain and warps, fenders and boat hook
extra interior glassed in lead ballast
single burner Origo stove
nasa echo sounder,plastimo concept cockpit compass
nav lights plus anchor light, vhf mast head aerial , windex ( please note interior wiring connection needs completing)
40 watt solar panel plus 12volt leisure battery and regulator
new unused porta potti chemical toilet
this boat is available ashore on Thorney Island near Chichester for £4950.
Please note: a brand new set of Liberty 23 sails as yet unused in cream colour from Crusader Sails cost £1300 in 2018 are available for another £950
The trailer has new tyres but has not been used by the present owner and may need some attention
call Bill on 07772 111549
or email firstname.lastname@example.org
£6500 ono. Contact Geoff Kite 01352 741625 email@example.com
Hunter Liberty 23 “Falcon”, dark blue hull no. 77, built 1985.
“Falcon” is in excellent condition complete with 4-wheel Hayling trolley/road trailer combination with manual & electric winches, ramps and spare wheel. Lewmar Delta 10kg bower anchor with 20m 26mm galvanised chain and 30m multiplait (2012), kedge anchor with galvanised chain and multiplait. Stiffened masts, good main & mizzen sails with reefing lines to cockpit (2000/1996), Jeckells sail covers (1996), Jeckells spray hood and dodgers (1996, cleaned/proofed 2006), Jeckells full cockpit tent (2006).
Cobra Marine DSC/VHF radio (2010), in-cabin FM/USB stereo (2014), Garmin 126 GPS (2010), Simrad Tillerpilot (2009), NASA depth sounder, NASA log (2014). With 240v shore power system, anchor light, flare pack, Plastimo Contest 101 compass, rescue buoy, stern ladder, blue fenders (8) with rope grips, 3 multiplait mooring lines. Thetford Porta Potti in separate heads compartment.
Excellent condition Mercury 4S Saildrive (2006) with charging circuit and remote tank. Solar panel, 12v battery.
Contact Geoff Kite, 01352 741 625, firstname.lastname@example.org, for full spec.
£750 ono. Contact Bob & Rita Ager 01206 386359 email@example.com
£750 ono. Contact Bob & Rita Ager 01206 386359 firstname.lastname@example.org
££5,850 ono. Contact Graham Panes 01492 592874 email@example.com
Hunter Liberty 23 with RM road trailer.
Built 1986. Engine a Honda 2.3hp, fourstroke, longshaft which is a few years old but has not been driven for more than 10 hours from new.
A full inventory including a Tilley Talisman 2 ring gas hob, Jabsco sea toilet, mooring lines, fenders, anchor and chain, depth sounder, wind speed indicator, Garmin gps, Simrad Tiller Pilot, a magnificent 15cm diameter magnetic compass, VHF radio, boat hook, barometer, clock, nav. lights, fuel tanks, pick up bouy, loads of miscellaneous sailing items. Antifouled a few weeks ago.
Ashore on its RM trailer (built specially for this boat) and stored in a locked compound at Rhos on Sea, North Wales. Further photographs can be forwarded. Sailed by me with friends and family along North Wales coast and Anglesey. Hauled out and laid up ashore every Winter.
Contact: Graham Panes. 07724 017728 , firstname.lastname@example.org
£ ono. Contact Georg Warnecke email@example.com
…preferably in germany – and / or junk–rigged…