"What a pretty boat, with that nice stern and unusual rig: what is it?"
We agree that the questionaire is right: everything about the boat is both pretty and practical. David Thomas developed the design for Hunter Boats in 1979, capitalising on his memories of the stern of a Royal Naval Montague Whaler and the best aspects of Gary Hoyt's American Freedom concept (hence the "Liberty" name) but anglicised so that conventional mast tracks could be used - and therefore a single sail instead of a wrap round - and the sail also reefed more efficiently as the complications of the wishbone and snotter are avoided.
But we do enjoy not having genoa sheet winches, the easy balancing of the two masted rig, the use of the tightly sheeted mizzen to keep the boat heading into wind while the main is set or the anchor weighed. Enthusiasts set upwind blade staysails or downwind balloon types between the masts, or even forward of the main mast, so it is possible to make life as complicated as you wish
Life below decks is highly civilised because the main mast is so far forward that it does not interfere with the accommodation layout, while the offset main hatch allows a full sized heads compartment (with surprisingly good headroom) immediately to port. So the saloon allows a double or two singles, plus a very long quarter berth running back under the cockpit and a good galley.
The Minstrel and Liberty 23 hulls, keels and rudders are identical. Below decks they are also the same, except that the Minstrel has an essential mast support. This slight inconvenience is countered in some boats by using it as a table support. Likewise, despite the support, owners have found ways to organise an infill cushion, so allowing a double berth
Minstrels are normally faster up wind than Libertys, as they should be since they have single masted rigs and a little more sail area. For the same reasons they are not quite as stiff. Off the wind there is little difference, though Libertys sometimes seem to gain in stronger winds. To our surprise, a goose winged and well laden Liberty has run away from a spartan Bermudan rigged Minstrel with its spinnaker set, so nothing is certain
Altogether 84 Libertys were built: 65 22s and 19 23s (the same hull with more ballast, a slightly bigger rig and bigger, less attractive windows) and then Hunter Boats used the same hull to build 30 of the gaff rigged Minstrel class, which is equally popular; Liberty and Minstrel sailors delight in late evening discussions over the relative merits and speed of their boats.
The Association boasts 87 members, so we still have to find about 30 of the boats, to document the whole class. If you happen to know of one, anywhere, we would like to know how we can contact the owner, so that we can try to discover its history, regardless of whether the owner wishes to join us or not.
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££ 5250 o.n.o. ono. Contact Brian Oldham 01823 443821 firstname.lastname@example.org
“White Wings” is now for sale as her current owners have “changed course” and are now exploring the world on two wheels instead of with two masts.
She is a fully equipped Liberty 22 with her original two-wheeled trailer and launching trolley (both fully overhauled in 2014). She is currently ashore, just off the M5 near Taunton, Somerset; having enjoyed life on the Exe estuary and beyond for 7 years.
For £5250 o.n.o. the package described below also includes one of 2 inflatable tenders (both in VGC)
6.Choice of One Inflatable from the following:
All equipment has been removed each winter and dry-stored indoors. Further information is available from Brian or Ann Oldham on Tel: 01823 443821 or email: email@example.com
££4950 ono. Contact Bill Wardroper 01243 786524 Lxbill@aol.com
|Liberty 22 for sale with original two wheeled trailer and launching trolley. Brakes and tow bar need an overhaul|
Double sleeved mainmast single sleeved mizzen, original sails,plus cruising Shute,plus set of used junk sails.sail covers, cockpit Dodgers, bottom copper coated 2017, rigging all led back to cockpit for single handing, 200lb of lead interior extra ballast NASA depth sounder.solar panel plus regulator,leisure battery
Unused chemical toilet as new
Refurbished interior, good cushions with new covers, cockpit cushions.single burner origo meths cooker. Spare set of interior cushions
Anchor plus tackle, new fenders
6 Hp tohatso 4 stroke sailmate outboard run for under three hours from new
Walker bay 8 ft tender plus oars but no inflatable tubes
Lying ashore near Emsworth
Drying mooring available to rent near Prinstead in Chichester harbour £350 per annum April to April
This boat is for sale due to owners recent illness which puts him out of sailing action
Contact Bill Wardroper
Email : firstname.lastname@example.org
£5250 ono. Contact Bob & Rita Ager 01206 386359 email@example.com
ORLANDO is a Liberty 22, a cat rigged Bermudan ketch designed by David Thomas and built by Hunter Boats of Rochford, Essex as hull No 36 in 1982. She is available with two completely separate rigs - the standard cat ketch with reinforced masts, and a fully sorted junk rig with separate masts, either or both of which can be available, subject to negotiation. The main mast is secured with an external "latch" system to facilitate the lowering of the mast, eliminating the need to go below .
As a trailer sailer there is a custom built road trailer, the wheels, brakes, bearings and mudguards of which have never been immersed in salt or fresh water. For the coming season all antifouling has been stripped away and Gelshield epoxy coating applied, and the centreplate strop has been renewed.
The bow is protected from damage by the anchor by a stainless steel plate, and other modifications include a boarding ladder, also in stainless steel which can be mounted in three positions around the cockpit, another safety feature is a step on the rudder to assist man overboard recovery. Additional louvred vents in the stern allow access to the pushpit and boarding ladder fixings as well as combating condensation.
Orlando is available with a Mariner 6hp 4 stroke long shaft outboard with sail drive propeller.
Further details and a full inventory are available from Bob Ager Tel: 01206 386359 or e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
£150.00 ono. Contact Richard Pereira 01642 762284 email@example.com
|Launch trolley for Hunter Liberty. Located Middlesbrough.|